YYF Avant Garde/Takuto L4 **UPDATE

so some of you might have read about it, i just went to check the link at the YYN forum and the thread is removed. But its still around at 91yoyo.

if you haven't already read about it, its about China players being unhappy about YYF's release of the Avant Garde, it seems that it was actually based off Takuto's L4 design, and Ben promised to seek permission from Takuto/Auldey before mass releasing it.

some of you who have access to 91yoyo might be able to see the PMs between Ben and Takuto, I shan't post them here.

Ben have promised to make a response to this.

visit this entry which was back in May this year, about the L4, and Takuto's clarification that he didn't copy the Avant Garde.


**UPDATE
Ben made a reply to the thread in 91yoyo.

so there, y'all got your answers.


Updates again at 23 Nov 2011, 8:38(GMT+8)
went to the 91yoyo forum, players still unhappy, but if y'all have any questions, i guess you can email YYFBen like stated in the message print-screened above.

Jensen also made a reply to another thread in regard to this.

Luo Yi Cheng's L4.

while you guys are talking about the YYF Avant Garde, Luo Yi Cheng wants to share his new signature yoyo, which actually, he's not suppose to talk about now... but he just want to make things clear that it ain't a copy of Avant Garde.

pictures first.

so here's what Takuto have to say:

Hello yoyo players and designers:

This is Yicheng Luo, the designer of L2 and L3. I haven't launched L4 since I designed L3 in 2008.(the"L4"saled on YOYOGUY is not my design, they made a mistake) .

Even though I faced to some problems, the L4 had been designed after 2010 WYYC. We improved the sample 4 times, than the final design was confirmed in February this year. Because of the confidentiality agreement with AULDEY, my new design must be kept secret before it can be launched officially.

But today I saw the new yoyo Avant Garde published by YYF, to my surprise, the profile of this yoyo and L4 look almost the same. Maybe we yoyo players think alike?

For avoiding being considered plagiarism, I asked for permission from Auldey company, and published the profile picture of L4 here. I wish you could understand and expect L4 to be released .

Thanks a lot,
Yicheng Luo
2011.5.13 

check out the thread at yoyoing.com and yoyoexpert.com